HELLO. I HAVE DECIDED TO RUN A COUPLE OF PREVIOUS POSTS BECAUSE THEY SEEM RELEVANT AGAIN.
I have placed quotes in italics with citations beneath the quotes. My comments are in boldface.
At least twenty state legislatures have recently seen measures introduced to secede from the Union. This should be the top story on every front page and home page of every media outlet in the country. Instead, it has become so commonplace that it warrants at best a few hours of chuckles on social media platforms.
“As the dust settles in the wake of President Obama’s decisive reelection last Tuesday, the White House petition website has been flooded by a series of secession requests, with malcontents from New Jersey to North Dakota submitting petitions to allow their states to withdraw from the union.
Most of the petitions submitted thus far have come from solidly conservative states, including most of the Deep South and reliably separatist Texas. But a handful come from the heart of blue America – relatively progressive enclaves like Oregon and New York.
All told, petitions have been filed on behalf of 20 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.”
Texas, of course, has many proponents of secession. Barry Smitherman, a candidate for attorney general, suggested this month that Texas could secede without harming itself.
“We are uniquely situated because we have energy resources, fossil and otherwise, and our own independent electrical grid,” Smitherman told World Net Daily. “Generally speaking, we have made great progress in becoming an independent nation, an ‘island nation’ if you will, and I think we want to continue down that path so that if the rest of the country falls apart, Texas can operate as a stand-alone entity with energy, food, water and roads as if we were a closed-loop system.”
Smitherman isn’t the first Texas official to mention the state’s future sans the rest of the union. In 2009, Republican Gov. Rick Perry said that Texans may want to secede because of their dissatisfaction with Washington politicians.”
These politicians do not see that preparing for secession is not free speech, but rather sedition and the first step on a worrisome journey towards treason. This should be cause for legal action and certainly for removal from elected office. Any oath of office they swore had at its core a presumption of loyalty to the state and the Union to which it belongs. If they wish to secede, to withdraw from that Union, they as individuals are free to leave at any time. In fact, they should leave rather than trying to destroy this country that many have fought and made the ultimate sacrifice to sustain. To stay in office while working to break up the United States is beyond insult; it is abhorrent behavior and should not be tolerated.
The White House petition site had more than 85,000 people sign a request to allow Texas to secede.
“Texas has no right to secede. The bottom line is that any state — or confederation of states — can illegally secede from the Union. But the result, as we discovered in 1861, is Civil War.”
Colorado, too, has its secessionists. Most simply want to form a new state, North Colorado. They seem to be organized around their opposition to regulations on the energy industries of oil and gas. This is strongest in rural areas.
“ ‘We really feel in northern and northeastern Colorado that we are ignored — citizens’ concerns are ignored, and we truly feel disenfranchised’ Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway said.
Conway said the new laws don’t support the interests of the northern part of the state, which is rich in agricultural history.
Conway said that’s why he and others are proposing to break away from Colorado to form a new state.
‘This is not a stunt. This is a very serious deliberative discussion that’s going on,’ he said. ‘There’s a real feeling that a lot of folks who come from the urban areas don’t appreciate the contribution that many Coloradans contribute.’
Parts of Nebraska are also apparently interested in joining in on what would be a new state.”
Speaking about secession is not illegal. Openly working towards that end by introducing measures in state legislatures is. By any understanding, that is an attempt at a coup d’état. It should be handled as such, with the perpetrators not only removed from office but also incarcerated or worse.
We must understand what secession is and what makes it illegal.
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Here are some definitions that might be useful. All are taken from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary at :
The Merriam-Webster online dictionary provides many helpful links for your research.
‘a situation of confusion and wild behavior in which the people in a country, group, organization, etc., are not controlled by rules or laws”
(French: “stroke of state”)
“Sudden overthrow, often violent, of an existing government by a group of conspirators. Coups are most common in countries with unstable governments and in countries with little experience of successful democracy. Their success depends on surprise and speed. Coups rarely alter a nation’s fundamental social and economic policies or significantly redistribute power. See also military government, revolution.”
“a usually violent attempt to take control of a government
an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government”
“wrongdoing or misconduct especially by a public official
legal term: illegal or dishonest activity especially by a public official or a corporation”
“an effort by many people to change the government or leader of a country by the use of protest or violence
open opposition toward a person or group in authority
refusal to obey rules or accept normal standards of behavior, dress, etc.
1 opposition to one in authority or dominance
2a open, armed, and usually unsuccessful defiance of or resistance to an established government
2b an instance of such defiance or resistance”
“the usually violent attempt by many people to end the rule of one government and start a new one
a fundamental change in political organization; especially: the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation”
“In politics, fundamental, rapid, and often irreversible change in the established order. Revolution involves a radical change in government, usually accomplished through violence, that may also result in changes to the economic system, social structure, and cultural values.”
“to withdraw from an organization (as a religious communion or political party or federation)”
the act of separating from a nation or state and becoming independent
1 withdrawal into privacy or solitude : retirement
2 formal withdrawal from an organization
“the crime of saying, writing, or doing something that encourages people to disobey their government
1 incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority”
“a person who is not loyal to his or her own country, friends, etc. : a person who betrays a country or group of people by helping or supporting an enemy
1 one who betrays another’s trust or is false to an obligation”
“the crime of trying to overthrow your country’s government or of helping your country’s enemies during war
1 the betrayal of a trust : treachery
2 the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign’s family”
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Here are links to information about some of the groups advocating anarchy or attempting to control government and corporate entities. Most are from WikiPedia. I chose that source because it provides links to so many other important topics. I could never include all the information that is available related to this research. You will find your own areas of interest and WikiPedia is a good starting place. I strongly urge you to verify everything with at least three sources, preferably more. This is not a comprehensive list. It is intended to give readers a starting point to learn more and to encourage discussion.
“We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.”
“Broadly speaking, Anons oppose internet censorship and control, and the majority of their actions target governments, organizations, and corporations that they accuse of censorship. Anons were early supporters of the global Occupy movement and the Arab Spring. Since 2008, a frequent subject of disagreement within Anonymous is whether members should focus on pranking and entertainment or more serious activism.
We [Anonymous] just happen to be a group of people on the internet who need—just kind of an outlet to do as we wish, that we wouldn’t be able to do in regular society. …That’s more or less the point of it. Do as you wish. … There’s a common phrase: ‘we are doing it for the lulz.’ ”
Anonymous defends itself against accusations that it was involved in Boston Marathon bombings (Note that I did a quick search and did not find any accusations. I don’t know why they felt they needed to do this, but it is interesting.)
“FreedomWorks originated from a Koch-funded conservative political group called Citizens for a Sound Economy, which in 2004 split into Americans for Prosperity, led by President Nancy Pfotenhauer, and a remainder group which merged with Empower America and was renamed FreedomWorks, led by President and CEO Matt Kibbe. Dick Armey, Jack Kemp and C. Boyden Gray served as co-chairmen of the new organization with Bill Bennett focusing on school choice as a Senior Fellow. Empower America had been founded in 1993 by Bennett, former Secretary of HUD Jack Kemp, former Ambassador Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, and former Representative Vin Weber. In December 2006, Steve Forbes joined the FreedomWorks board of directors.
The ‘FreedomWorks’ name was derived from a common Armey saying: ‘Freedom works. Freedom is good policy and good politics.’ ”
Freemen on the Land
This group now exists on two continents.
“ ‘Freemen on the land’ are people who claim that all statute law is contractual, and that such law is applicable only if an individual consents to be governed by it. They believe that they can therefore declare themselves independent of government jurisdiction, holding that the only “true” law is common law, as they define it. The ‘Freeman on the land’ movement has its origins in various United States-based groups in the 1970s and 1980s, reaching Ireland and the United Kingdom soon after 2000.”
This is one of the more disturbing groups. Its beliefs are reminiscent of those of the so-called ‘2%’ wealthy individuals and corporations in the United States: few regulations, little to no taxation, and as little federal-level government as possible (if at all).
“The Posse Comitatus (from the Latin phrase meaning “force of the county”) is a loosely organized far right social movement that opposes the Federal government of the United States and believes in localism. There is no single national group, and local units are autonomous.
Posse charters were issued in 1969 in Portland, Oregon, by Henry Lamont Beach, “a retired dry cleaner and one-time member of the Silver Shirts, a Nazi-inspired organization that was established in America after Hitler took power in Germany”. William Potter Gale has been described by one expert as the founder of the movement.”
“Posse members believe that there is no legitimate form of government above that of the county level and no higher law authority than the county sheriff.”
“Many Posse members practice survivalism and played a role in the formation of the armed citizens’ militias in the 1990s. The Posse Comitatus pioneered the use of false liens and other paper terrorism.”
This group has origins in the Posse Comitatus. Much of their belief system is economic in nature, including a hatred of taxation.
The movement has attracted some very unsavory types. Read the ‘incidents’ section to get an idea of this.
“The sovereign citizen movement is a loose grouping of American litigants, commentators, and financial scheme promoters. Self-described sovereign citizens take the position that they are answerable only to common law and are not subject to any statutes or proceedings at the federal, state or municipal levels, or that they do not recognize U.S. currency and that they are “free of any legal constraints”. They especially reject most forms of taxation as illegitimate. Participants in the movement argue this concept in opposition to “federal citizens” who, they say, have unknowingly forfeited their rights by accepting some aspect of federal law.”
“The concept of a sovereign citizen originated in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William P. Gale. The concept has influenced the tax protester movement, the Christian Patriot movement, and the redemption movement—the last of which claims that the U.S. government uses its citizens as collateral against foreign debt.”
“Fox News commentator Juan Williams argues that the Tea Party movement emerged from the ‘ashes’ of Ron Paul’s 2008 presidential primary campaign. Others have argued that the Koch brothers were essential in fostering the movement. In 2013, a study published in the journal Tobacco Control concluded that organizations within the movement were connected with non-profit organizations that the tobacco industry and other corporate interests worked with and provided funding for, including groups Citizens for a Sound Economy (founded by the Koch brothers).”
“In an August 30, 2010, article in The New Yorker, Jane Mayer said that the billionaire brothers David H. Koch and Charles G. Koch and Koch Industries are providing financial and organizational support to the Tea Party movement through Americans for Prosperity, which David founded. The AFP’s ‘Hot Air Tour’ was organized to fight against taxes on carbon use and the activation of a cap and trade program. In 1984, David Koch also founded Citizens for a Sound Economy, part of which became FreedomWorks in a 2004 split, another group that organized and supports the movement. Koch Industries issued a press release stating that the Kochs have ‘no ties to and have never given money to FreedomWorks’. Former ambassador Christopher Meyer wrote in the Daily Mail that the Tea Party movement is a mix of ‘grassroots populism, professional conservative politics, and big money’, the last supplied in part by the Kochs. Mayer says that the Koch brothers’ political involvement with the Tea Party has been so secretive that she labels it ‘covert’.”
Anonymous Vox Populi
commits to armed destruction of US government
“you must have weapons”
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